a slipshod study
when organizing goes math..
Thursday, January 6, 2011
Monday, October 4, 2010
With Palomar College
One of my organizers is working at Palomar College, so I calculated the red tape score there. It has not only the highest red tape score, but also the lowest number of student groups per student (or highest number of students per student group - either way, it's bad) at 1,428. Compare this with our 2nd least active school, OCC, at 309 students per student group and most active school, Stanford, at 11 students per student group.
It trends as you'd expect.


It trends as you'd expect.

| School | # students per student group | # of groups | # students (Undergraduate, Full-Time) | School type |
| Palomar | 1428 | 29 | 41413 | CC |
| Palomar | |
| OVERALL DEMOCRACY SCORE | 3.75 |
| Starting a Student Group | |
| # of students needed | 2 |
| Who approves it? | 4 |
| What's the process? | 3 |
| Holding Meetings | 4 |
| Off Campus Groups | 3 |
| Designated Reps? | 3 |
| Postering Rules | |
| Poster Approval | 5 |
| Posting Posters | 5 |
| Fliering Rules | 3 |
| Tabling Rules | |
| Approval Process? | 5 |
| Where? | 4 |
| Events | 5 |
| Freedom of Messaging | 3 |
| Democratically decided Rules? | |
| % by Elected Officials | 5 |
| Accessible Process? | 5 |
| Rules easy to access/decipher? | 1 |
Thursday, September 23, 2010
Table of Contents
This study was posted on a blog, so it's backwards if you scroll down! Use the buttons above (or to your right) to navigate in an order that makes sense to normal human brains.
Wednesday, September 22, 2010
To conclude
The correlation value (r) of the data here is .82 with a two tailed p-value of 0.000017 (for Red-Tape-o-Meter value vs. Students per Student Group).
Now, I'm not so good with the math, and there's certainly a lot to be questioned about the metrics, but assuming that the the metrics are correct, that is some statistically damn significant data.
Anyways, I did some math and it was fun!
I hope that those of you that are democracy/organizing inclined particularly enjoyed this so I feel like I wasted less time in the last three weeks calculating this. Perhaps down the road anger will compel me to do more slipshod studies in all my free time - in the meantime, I'll freely take suggestions on what the next project should be.
Now, I'm not so good with the math, and there's certainly a lot to be questioned about the metrics, but assuming that the the metrics are correct, that is some statistically damn significant data.
Anyways, I did some math and it was fun!
I hope that those of you that are democracy/organizing inclined particularly enjoyed this so I feel like I wasted less time in the last three weeks calculating this. Perhaps down the road anger will compel me to do more slipshod studies in all my free time - in the meantime, I'll freely take suggestions on what the next project should be.
Other Interesting things
| School Type | Avg. Red Tape Score |
| UC | 2.78 |
| Private | 2.72 |
| CSU | 3.11 |
| CC | 3.45 |
| Metric | Red tape score |
| # of students needed to start group | 1.31 |
| Fliering Rules | 1.75 |
| Holding Meetings | 1.83 |
| Rules easy to access/decipher? | 2.11 |
| Where can you table? | 2.28 |
| Posting Posters | 2.5 |
| Approval Process tabling? | 2.56 |
| Freedom of Messaging | 2.61 |
| Poster Approval | 2.72 |
| Off Campus Groups | 3.06 |
| What's the process to start a student group? | 3.41 |
| Designated Reps? | 3.44 |
| Events | 3.65 |
| Approval Process student groups? | 3.76 |
| % by Elected Officials | 5 |
| Accessible Process? | 5 |
The Red-Tape-o-Meter score vs. Student Engagament on Campus
Not that this is a scientific study by any means, but the data based on this methodology shows a clear trend:
Schools with more red tape have less student groups per capita.
These groups trend Red-Tape-o-Meter score on the y-axis and students per student group on the x-axis. So in other words, points closest to the origin = more students involved and less red tape, farthest from the origin = less students involved and more red tape.


Schools with more red tape have less student groups per capita.
These groups trend Red-Tape-o-Meter score on the y-axis and students per student group on the x-axis. So in other words, points closest to the origin = more students involved and less red tape, farthest from the origin = less students involved and more red tape.


| School | Student Activities | Red Tape Score (including missing values) | Red Tape Score (not including missing values) |
| Stanford | 11 | 2.44 | 2.25 |
| UC Berkeley | 19 | 2.19 | 2.13 |
| UCLA | 29 | 2.50 | 2.47 |
| San Jose State | 34 | 2.88 | 2.88 |
| UCSB | 45 | 2.38 | 2.29 |
| UCD | 46 | 2.38 | 2.31 |
| USC | 49 | 3.00 | 3 |
| UCR | 55 | 3.13 | 3.13 |
| CSU Chico | 69 | 2.94 | 2.92 |
| UCI | 83 | 2.94 | 2.88 |
| SDSU | 85 | 3.25 | 3.29 |
| UCSC | 99 | 3.19 | 3.2 |
| CSULB | 107 | 3.19 | 3.2 |
| UCSD | 120 | 3.13 | 3.13 |
| Sac State | 143 | 3.31 | 3.38 |
| SMC | 159 | 3.44 | 4 |
| Cabrillo College | 165 | 3.13 | 3.13 |
| De Anza College | 246 | 3.63 | 3.71 |
| Orange Coast College | 309 | 3.63 | 3.71 |
| * In other words, if everyone was in a student group at OCC, each group would have 309 members.. Yikes! | * including missing values neutralizes the graph some | * graph fluctuates some, but trend as expected | |
| * Or, if you'd like, every Stanford student has basically started their own group |
Student groups per Student
This part also was harder than I thought. You'd think schools would advertise the number of registered student groups they had, but it turns out, some of them don't care about this much so I had to count them up one by one.
Anecdotally, this seems like a fair measurement of how much students are actually involved in extracurriculars on campus. If you buy that actively engaged students are outside doing stuff, then a 10 minute walk down Sproul at Berkeley or Bruin Walk at UCLA would give you a distinctly different experience than Library Walk at UCSD or the Quad at Cabrillo College. Tons of groups and students doing stuff vs. a few or none.
One could argue that the restrictive policies at the schools with high Red-Tape-o-Meter scores cause student groups to operate more in the shadows and can't be seen or measured, but I can't think of a way to quantify that in a useful way so I'm choosing to ignore it for now.
Anyways, here's the data for student involvement, comparisons to Red-Tape-o-Meter scores in the next post.
Anecdotally, this seems like a fair measurement of how much students are actually involved in extracurriculars on campus. If you buy that actively engaged students are outside doing stuff, then a 10 minute walk down Sproul at Berkeley or Bruin Walk at UCLA would give you a distinctly different experience than Library Walk at UCSD or the Quad at Cabrillo College. Tons of groups and students doing stuff vs. a few or none.
One could argue that the restrictive policies at the schools with high Red-Tape-o-Meter scores cause student groups to operate more in the shadows and can't be seen or measured, but I can't think of a way to quantify that in a useful way so I'm choosing to ignore it for now.
Anyways, here's the data for student involvement, comparisons to Red-Tape-o-Meter scores in the next post.
| School | # students per student group | # of groups | # students (Undergraduate, Full-Time) | School type |
| Stanford | 11 | 650 | 6878 | Private |
| UC Berkeley | 19 | 1310 | 25530 | UC |
| UCLA | 29 | 929 | 26928 | UC |
| San Jose State | 34 | 713 | 24273 | CSU |
| UCSB | 45 | 383 | 17126 | UC |
| UCD | 46 | 536 | 24655 | UC |
| USC | 49 | 340 | 16751 | Private |
| UCR | 55 | 310 | 16996 | UC |
| CSU Chico | 69 | 249 | 17132 | CSU |
| UCI | 83 | 265 | 22122 | UC |
| SDSU | 85 | 325 | 27537 | UC |
| UCSC | 99 | 145 | 14381 | UC |
| CSULB | 107 | 274 | 29227 | CSU |
| UCSD | 120 | 198 | 23746 | UC |
| Sac State | 143 | 170 | 24388 | CSU |
| SMC | 159 | 64 | 10200 | CC |
| Cabrillo College | 165 | 28 | 4622 | CC |
| De Anza College | 246 | 61 | 15000 | CC |
| Orange Coast College | 309 | 62 | 19160 | CC |
| Average | 98.61 | 369.05 | 19297.47 |
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